jesus, the night before he dies, is prostrate on the ground, begging god, "if this all could pass... but i will do what you want," and the disciples all flee. now, that's an awful picture. that makes sense to me because mark is writing to a persecuted community who knows... who know what it's like to die. that's how you die, feeling abandoned by god. over to "john." jesus is not on the ground in "john." the whole cohort of the jerusalem forces come out, 600 troops come out to capture jesus, and they end up with their faces on the ground in "john." and jesus says, "of course i will do what the father wants." and jesus tells them to, "let my disciples go." he's in command of the whole operation. you have a jesus out of control, almost, in "mark," a jesus totally in control in "john"-- both gospels. neither of them are historical. i don't think either of them know exactly what happened. >> jesus dies on a different day in john's gospel than in "matthew," "mark" and "luke." in the three synoptic gospels, jesus actually eats a passover meal before he dies. in john's gospel, he doesn't.